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Simon Costain: Top 50 Quotes from the Senate Hearing on the ESOS Amendments

Dirk MulderbyDirk Mulder
August 7, 2024
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Simon Costain: Top 50 Quotes from the Senate Hearing on the ESOS Amendments
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Yesterday was a wild ride. It started with the Government leaking crucial information to the media evening before, with Julie Hare posting in the AFR that the proposed caps would limit providers to 2019 levels, and providers would be required to have no more than 40% international students.

The release of this information in the AFR the night before the hearing was strategic, and clearly designed to send industry into a panic before the senate hearing – it also is a subtle signal that maybe the hearing is redundant and that the policy change has already been determined with an announcement imminent. Then arrives the big show! On Monday, over 8 grueling hours, the hearing showcased a series of heavy hitting interviews from the senate committee to industry bodies exposing how detrimental for the Australian economy, and the entire education sector.

There was a lot covered, and a speaker by speaker breakdown was summarized yesterday by the Koala News here. I commend the committee members for the hard-hitting questions scrutiny of current government practice.

And if you want to brighten your day, watch the video of Shadow Minister Sarah Henderson tearing shreds through the Department of Home Affairs for deceptive practices, and a blatant abuse of power through the rise in unjustified visa rejections, as well as total absence of cross-departmental planning on how these caps will actually work. Video here – watch at 7hr 21m

However, I thought it might be interesting to run the transcript of the hearing through AI and pull the 50 most controversial and impactful statements to come out of the 8 hour sessions.

The theme of these quotes is quite clear. The current and proposed international strategy is an absolute disaster. Note these are AI’s top 50 quotes, not mine, however I agree with most of them.

Top 50 Quotes from the Senate Hearing

  1. “Proposed reforms could exacerbate existing challenges rather than promote progress and further hinder the ability of the independent providers to effectively support international students.” – Felix Pirie
  2. “Recent public rhetoric has demonised international students and the sector that supports them.” – Felix Pirie
  3. “While perhaps well-intentioned, the bill includes provisions that are, to be frank, a job-killer.” – Felix Pirie
  4. “Our main issue lies with the amendments that seek to control the number of international students our universities can enrol.” – Vicki Thomson
  5. “The Education Services for Overseas Students Amendment (Quality and Integrity) Bill, for the most part, is rushed policy.” – Luke Sheehy
  6. “Using students as cannon fodder in a poll-driven battle over migration and housing simply doesn’t add up.” – Luke Sheehy
  7. “This bill is more a political smokescreen than an instrument for good policy as the government seeks to gain an upper hand in the battle of migration ahead of the next election.” – Luke Sheehy
  8. “We are concerned the bill will further damage the international education sector and should be opposed.” – Peter Hendy
  9. “There is very real likelihood of overregulation of a sector that is on the back foot from recent visa refusal decisions of the government.” – Peter Hendy
  10. “The government actions already have had a significant and adverse impact on independent higher education providers.” – Peter Hendy
  11. “International students are not the reason for the housing crisis.” – Vicki Thomson
  12. “International students are often ineligible to receive student concession rates for travel and don’t have access to Medicare.” – Vicki Thomson
  13. “The Morrison government left international students completely out of the pandemic support payments.” – Vicki Thomson
  14. “The rhetoric surrounding this bill implies a natural association between being privately owned and being shonky and unscrupulous.” – James Hart
  15. “This bill risks penalizing legitimate providers and driving non-genuine providers further underground and away from the scrutiny of regulators.” – James Hart
  16. “Caps should not be applied to courses nor aligned with Australia’s skill needs nor based on location.” – Peter Hendy
  17. “The definition of an education agent in the bill should be narrowed so it does not inadvertently capture a range of unintended bodies.” – Peter Hendy
  18. “This exploitation can range from providing poor quality education products to high student fees and false promises of pathways to permanent migration.” – Ngaire Bogemann
  19. “I just want to talk about the implementation, because there are some regional universities that have had 90 percent of their student visas rejected, and yet, at the large, prestigious universities, their approvals have gone up. There’s a huge discrepancy between smaller and regional unis and the private providers and the G8 universities. That’s not a coincidence, I’d put to you.” – Sarah Henderson
  20. “The government’s recent changes to the student visa system have resulted in higher than usual refusal rates and a shift in international students choosing to study elsewhere.” – James Hart
  21. “Thousands of international students have been denied or have had their visas delayed because of ministerial directive 107.” – James Hart
  22. “This sends a strong message to the world that international students are not welcome here.” – James Hart
  23. Seeing this ricochet throughout so many high education providers, the chaotic way in which visas have been either approved or refused is rapidly plummeting confidence in smaller and regional universities and private providers.” – Sarah Henderson
  24. “There is significant concern that the proposed caps on international student numbers will harm legitimate providers’ economic activities.” – Peter Hendy
  25. “This bill requires more thought; the many stakeholders, international students, and providers implicated in the outcomes of this bill need more than a rushed response.” – Peter Hendy
  26. “The chaotic way in which visas have been either approved or refused is rapidly plummeting confidence in smaller and regional universities and private providers.” – James Hart
  27. “The definition of education agents should be narrowed to avoid capturing unintended bodies such as government agencies and even peak bodies.” – Peter Hendy
  28. “A blunt cap on international student numbers will place these activities at risk, operating costs have increased by around 25% over the past decade.” – Felix Pirie
  29. “International student revenue is essential for the overall operation and opportunities for domestic students.” – Vicki Thomson
  30. “There is a fair chance that the university could either not give me an offer to study or my Visa will be rejected based on when, where, and what I study.” – Felix Pirie
  31. “Thousands of international students have been denied or have had their visas delayed because of ministerial directive 107.” – James Hart
  32. “This sends a strong message to the world that international students are not welcome here.” – James Hart
  33. “The rhetoric conflating international students with the housing crisis has been pretty terrible.” – Felix Pirie
  34. “For years, international students have been used as cash cows; they have been exploited at work and now they’re being used as scapegoats.” – Felix Pirie
  35. “The chaotic way in which visas have been either approved or refused is rapidly plummeting confidence in smaller and regional universities and private providers.” – James Hart
  36. “Proposed reforms could exacerbate existing challenges rather than promote progress.” – Felix Pirie
  37. “The rhetoric surrounding this bill implies a natural association between being privately owned and being shonky and unscrupulous.” – James Hart
  38. “This bill risks penalizing legitimate providers and driving non-genuine providers further underground and away from the scrutiny of regulators.” – James Hart
  39. “Caps should not be applied to courses nor aligned with Australia’s skill needs nor based on location.” – Peter Hendy
  40. “The definition of an education agent in the bill should be narrowed so it does not inadvertently capture a range of unintended bodies.” – Peter Hendy
  41. “This exploitation can range from providing poor quality education products to high student fees and false promises of pathways to permanent migration.” – Ngaire Bogemann
  42. “The problem extends to grave instances of sex trafficking, bonded labor, and slavery-like conditions for people entering the country on a student visa.” – Ngaire Bogemann
  43. “The government’s recent changes to the student visa system have resulted in higher than usual refusal rates and a shift in international students choosing to study elsewhere.” – James Hart
  44. “Thousands of international students have been denied or have had their visas delayed because of ministerial directive 107.” – James Hart
  45. “This sends a strong message to the world that international students are not welcome here.” – James Hart
  46. “There is significant concern that the proposed caps on international student numbers will harm legitimate providers’ economic activities.” – Peter Hendy
  47. “This bill requires more thought; the many stakeholders, international students, and providers implicated in the outcomes of this bill need more than a rushed response.” – Peter Hendy
  48. “The chaotic way in which visas have been either approved or refused is rapidly plummeting confidence in smaller and regional universities and private providers.” – James Hart
  49. “The definition of education agents should be narrowed to avoid capturing unintended bodies such as government agencies and even peak bodies.” – Peter Hendy
  50. “A blunt cap on international student numbers will place these activities at risk, operating costs have increased by around 25% over the past decade.” – Felix Pirie

Speakers

Group of Eight Ms Vicki Thomson, Chief Executive and Director

Regional Universities Network  Mr Alec Webb, Chief Executive Officer

Universities Australia  Mr Luke Sheehy, Chief Executive Officer

Independent Higher Education Australia  Hon Dr Peter Hendy, Chief Executive Officer, Dr James Hart, Policy and Research Manager

Independent Tertiary Education Council Australia  Mr Felix Pirie, Deputy Chief Executive, Policy and Research

National Tertiary Education Union  Dr Terri MacDonald, Director, Public Policy and Strategic Research

Australian Chamber of Commerce and Industry , Dr Jodie Trembath, Director of Skills, Employment and Small Business

Business Council of Australia (via videoconference) Ms Wendy Black, Executive Director, Policy

National Union of Students, Ms Ngaire Bogemann, National President, Mr Janageeth Logeswaran, Student President, Flinders University Student Association

Australian National University Professor Genevieve Bell AO, Vice-Chancellor and President

Monash University  Professor Sharon Pickering, Vice-Chancellor and President

University of Melbourne Professor Duncan Maskell, Vice-Chancellor

University of Tasmania, Professor Rufus Black, Vice-Chancellor and PresidentDarwin University (via videoconference) Professor Scott Bowman AO, Vice-Chancellor and President

University of Adelaide and University of South Australia , Professor Jennie Shaw, Deputy-Vice Chancellor and Vice-President (Academic), University of Adelaide, Professor Jessica Gallagher, Deputy-Vice Chancellor (External Engagement), University of Adelaide), Ms Gabrielle Rolan, Pro Vice Chancellor: International, University of South Australia

University of Queensland , Professor Deborah Terry AC, Vice-Chancellor and President, Dr Clare Hourigan, Director of Planning and Business Intelligence

Department of Home Affairs  Ms Tara Cavanagh, Group Manager, Immigration Policy, Immigration Group, Mr Damien Kilner, First Assistant Secretary, Immigration Programs Division, Immigration Group

The Koala thanks Simon Costain for permission to republish this piece. It was originally published via Linkedin here.

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Dirk Mulder is the founder of the Koala and Principal of MulderPR, a strategy and marketing communications consultancy specialising in international education. Dirk has had extensive experience in International Education and Service Management, holding Directorships at the University of South Australia, Curtin University and Murdoch University as well the Lead for International Student Initiative across the Asia Pacific region at Allianz Partners. He has been member of the boards of Perth Education City (now Study Perth) and Education Adelaide, he has chaired the Universities of Perth International Directors Forum and has been a past board member of the Hawkesbury Alumni Chapter, his alma mater. His views are widely published and quoted across the media and has been seen in Campus Morning Mail, the Australian Financial Review and ABC television and online. Acknowledgement/disclosure: Dirk holds shares in and outside of the education sector including in IDP Education.

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